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Today we’re continuing our social media series. That’s kind of hard to say, and today we’re talking about Twitter.
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Little birdie, woohoo, tweet, tweet. I do actually have family members that have said is that the bird one? So I felt like that was necessary to delineate. That’s so funny.
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Last night my husband he is not a social media guy and I’m trying to get him active on Twitter, which is so funny seeing him try to navigate this and last night he was like I don’t like the Twitter, I don’t like the Twitter.
0:01:07 – Speaker 3
Why do people add the in front of things they don’t understand, right?
0:01:10 – Speaker 2
My daughter was like dad. It’s not the Twitter. We were trying to make in front of him. Oh my goodness.
0:01:18 – Speaker 3
It’s. You know I am not a big fan of spending a lot of time on social media because I have little ones, but it is like a huge part of everyone’s life. We’ve got to know how it works, especially if you’ve got kids.
0:01:30 – Speaker 2
I will tell you I love Twitter. I know you do. I love Twitter A lot of our team loves Twitter. I didn’t like it when I first started using it. Because I like words, I mean I wrote a 300 page book. I like lots of words, so the 140 characters are less. It was a lot for me to get used to.
0:01:46 – Speaker 3
It’s stressful to me.
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I’m like oh, I can’t say it, but it’s taught me to edit myself. Yeah, and it’s changed a little bit. I think, we’re going to get into all that, okay.
0:01:53 – Speaker 3
Yeah, so let’s get some details out on the page Twitter launched in March of 2006. It’s headquartered in San Francisco, but it has 35 plus offices worldwide. I mean, this is huge.
0:02:04 – Speaker 2
Kim, I mean the value. It’s currently valued at $16 billion, that’s a lot of money Unbelievable.
0:02:12 – Speaker 3
Oh my goodness.
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We have monthly active Twitter users 330 million. That’s a monthly active user base Unreal.
0:02:20 – Speaker 3
Crazy 500 million tweets per day. Are you kidding me? 500 million yeah, that’s a lot of thought going out into space. 100 million daily active users Wow.
0:02:31 – Speaker 2
Yeah, and 79% of Twitter accounts are based outside the United States.
0:02:37 – Speaker 1
Yeah, that surprised me when I read that that’s a big number.
0:02:38 – Speaker 2
Yes, there are over 67 million Twitter users in the US, so 67 million in the US and the top three countries by user count outside the US are Brazil they have 27.7 million, japan 25.9 million and Mexico 23.5 million.
0:02:57 – Speaker 3
Oh my goodness, yeah, I was surprised. I really thought the US would be at the top there like number one.
0:03:05 – Speaker 2
Yeah, well, there’s a lot of people worldwide who use Twitter.
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It brings the world together. It does yeah. Yes, you know what I love about Twitter. Originally, when it launched, it was 140 characters or less. I struggled with that. But then you start editing yourself and you realize, oh my gosh, I can say a lot without using all these extra words. You know you start to edit yourself and it kind of helps with your conversation with your kids and with your husband. You’re like I can say less.
0:03:35 – Speaker 3
I mean, I can say more with less. Yeah, absolutely, we all need editing and I think, like you said, this is one of those unexpected benefits of Twitter is you learn how to communicate more effectively. It’s funny I still struggle with it, but my husband uses Twitter. He’s not a Facebook guy, he’s like that’s so much stuff, but he does like Twitter.
0:03:56 – Speaker 2
Yeah Well, and Twitter recently back last year, 2017, up the character count to 280. So we now have a little bit more character, but it’s still limited.
0:04:08 – Speaker 3
If only we could limit the like. If you had to think before you posted, that would be good. If we could limit the reaction time, that would be nice. I feel bad, even for, like our president, sometimes I’m thinking, man, if someone could just have you wait a minute before you tweeted, that would be good.
0:04:22 – Speaker 2
Yeah, well, we all have stuff that we want to take back, right.
0:04:25 – Speaker 3
Oh my goodness.
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And then you delete it, but then people screen shot it.
0:04:27 – Speaker 3
People already saw it and they’re sharing it anyway.
0:04:30 – Speaker 2
It’s there, it’s your digital footprint. Oh, my goodness, you know it was originally intended, twitter, as a means of sharing information quickly in a small space. Right, and that’s back to that editing thing. It really does help us. We say more with less words.
One thing about Twitter you can have a public or a private account. A lot of people don’t know that, but it’s really found upon. To have a private account, why? Well, because it’s just weird, I mean, I mean just being honest with you, you’re connecting to the world and that is the whole idea of Twitter. So to have a private account, people have to ask to follow you. Like, it’s just weird because it’s a public forum kind of thing, unlike Instagram. You know I have private accounts there, you know that kind of thing, but I think it’s just different with Twitter.
Do people have multiple Twitter accounts? Probably, I mean I don’t A private and a public. Yeah, I think it’s encouraged to. I mean I get. No, I don’t think most kids do that, I really don’t. But I mean you could, you could, a lot of people say you know, focus on your niche of what you’re about on Twitter. So, for instance, if you’re in pharmaceutical sales, use that as a resource to connect with pharmaceutical sale people and, you know, grow your network that kind of way. So I guess you could have different accounts if you had different things going on.
0:05:48 – Speaker 3
And because there’s so much going on on Twitter and there’s some other things we’re going to talk about with that, we’re going to focus today on how that relates to older kids and high school age kids and why we recommend that you should be 13 or older, like Twitter requires.
0:06:00 – Speaker 2
Yes, it is 13 and older and I would say to parents listening out there, this is one that you want to reserve for older kids. It shouldn’t be a first platform. We’re gonna cover this today. There’s a lot of bad stuff on Twitter. You know, it is a worldwide platform, so there’s access to a lot of things, so we’re gonna cover that. But first we want to start out on a good note. We want to talk about the good stuff about Twitter, what we like about Twitter.
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I know you love Twitter because of the news and not just news like from news agencies, but from pastors that you like, people that authors, all kinds of things like that. You love all of that.
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Okay, so I feel like Twitter is my new source and this is why I used to be a news junkie. I used to love CNN and Fox News. Okay, every time I want to get information on a story. For instance, last night there was the Southwest plane that you know had an issue and there was a person that an engine blew. A person lost their life. I wanted information on that. Right like I wanted to hear that story.
I went to CNN and Fox News and I flipped back and forth to the both of them for over an hour and it was all political stuff and it was like can I just get a new story? That’s all I want. Yeah, because I missed the the local news, which I’m sure they covered it, but my national news options. So what did I do? I went to Twitter and I livestreamed videos and I went to the hashtag, which was flight you know whatever the flight number was and I got to see post of people that were on the plane. I got to see live videos of the press conferences telling us what happened and we all gathered around my screen my family and watched it, because we couldn’t find it on the local or on the national news.
0:07:32 – Speaker 3
So it’s kind of a way of filtering out and filtering in exactly what you’re curious about.
0:07:37 – Speaker 2
Yes, Interesting which can get kind of dicey.
I was just gonna say well, because the other thing is, you’re only gonna see on your Twitter feed the people that you follow, right? So if I am just following the news source that I want and not any other news source, I’m only gonna get the views I want to get, right, I’m not gonna get like everybody’s views. So you kind of have to be careful with this, because I do feel like it can make us more divisive as a people group. Sure, as a culture it can make us divisive.
0:08:07 – Speaker 3
Well, and there have been times when I have listened to you or overheard conversations or ideas on a subject that I felt very strongly about, and then, when I heard the other side, it just gave me new things to think about. Not necessarily changed my mind, yes, but my perspective shifted, and that gives me a better way of communicating to others who don’t feel the same. And so if we’re not hearing that constantly, or at least sometimes hearing why other people think the way they do, it makes it hard to have a respectful conversation.
0:08:35 – Speaker 2
Well, and I think that’s a great point, because our kids are often getting both views at school and on their social media platforms, and so when we isolate ourselves in the what I like to call the Twitter bubble and we only listen to people that we agree with, we miss some learning points in how to communicate with our kids and all the views that they’re getting. Yes, so I you know I don’t follow a ton of people that I disagree with, but I make it a point to follow some because I need to see their point of view, I need to see where they’re coming from.
0:09:06 – Speaker 3
Well, that’s gonna help with your kids too, you know, like you said, because if we don’t know what’s going on outside of our bubble, then it’s gonna be hard to parent it when things come into our bubble through our kids. Yes, so it’s good to be in the know about both sides, not just follow things that you like.
0:09:21 – Speaker 2
Well, and a lot of people get their news and their political views from websites, now from social media. Pew Research Center found that since 2013 this is a quote from Pew Research Center since 2013, at least half of Twitter users have reported getting news on the sites, but in 2017, with a president who frequently makes announcements on the platform, that share has increased to about 74 percent. Wow, 15 percentage points from last year. Wow. So you know, people are tuning out to the national news and those sorts of things if they don’t agree with what’s being said or they feel like there’s an agenda being pushed and they’re going to Twitter so interesting. And then everything that everybody who they follow is going to be skewed. Yeah, if they’re not following anyone who’s different from them or be who believes different from them, and I really believe like this contributes to the divisiveness in America, it makes sense. I really do. Yeah, because we’re choosing what we want to put in our minds and not see everybody’s opinion on that. On the matter, yeah, you know, even if we disagree it’s okay.
0:10:25 – Speaker 3
It’s okay, we need to know what’s happening in this world. Well, so we have now our news on there and different opinions that we should probably take a look at or at least take into account. But what about fake news?
0:10:36 – Speaker 2
Yeah, that’s another one, because you can follow all sorts of wrong news sources on Twitter and you could be getting misinformation. There’s not a lot of accountability there, no. I mean, anybody can post whatever they want, and then you have all these Satire type news websites that just kind of make fun, but then they get passed along sometimes as true stories, and then there’s confusion there.
0:10:58 – Speaker 3
So it’s definitely a vetting out process that you need to be aware of well and think as an adult, how much time and energy and thought that takes. So as a kid. If your kids are on Twitter, man, they’re just looking. They’re just looking and reading and consuming, yeah, and so we’ve got to be able to help them sort through that.
0:11:13 – Speaker 2
Well, and, like I said, this is a platform for older kids. My kids are 14 and 10. They don’t have it. You know, in my 14 year old, it’ll probably be the next platform she goes to, but I don’t know when that’s gonna happen. Yeah, she hasn’t asked for it, so I’m not ever gonna bring it up. Yeah, ever.
0:11:28 – Speaker 1
I’m not ever gonna push social media on her, you know I wait until she comes to me, but I’m sure she will.
0:11:33 – Speaker 2
With going into high school, I recently did a. I spoke at a high school and there were two high school kids that were there and they spoke on a panel and one of the breakout sessions and One of them said we love Twitter, like we get all of our news. We get all they’ve. They were big sports people. Oh, they’re like we follow all the cool sports people and we get all of our information from Twitter. That’s our source. Wow, and this was coming from high school kids, wow.
0:12:00 – Speaker 3
Well, you know, we always say your family, your choice, and of course, every kid is different, so the timing on getting Twitter will look different in every home. Whether they get it or not will also be different too. So you got to know your kids and you got to know the platforms before you introduce them to your kids.
0:12:14 – Speaker 2
I think another reason people love Twitter, kim, is it’s a way to I I want to say quote, unquote personally. We’re doing it on a screen, but you kind of feel like you can connect to celebrities, yeah, people that you wouldn’t have access to. It’s kind of behind the curtain, yes, and even though it’s on a screen, you are hearing them and you know when it’s them tweeting or you know when it’s like their team or their administration, because you know their voice.
Yeah, you know their tone, so that’s kind of fun. Yeah, and there are some people, you know, celebrities, that I love to follow, like I mean Beth Moore. Even though she’s a Christian and she’s a Bible study, she’s a celeb. I mean, people know who Beth Moore is. Yes, I’m telling you what. Following her on Twitter, you’ve seen me screenshot stop and send it to you.
There are moments in the morning when I’m watching her Twitter and I’m like I am in church price. I mean, she’s on fire and preaching it and Awesome, like it’s a great way to start my day to see her tweets and I feel like I’ve in a church service?
0:13:17 – Speaker 3
Yeah, she’s. She shares a lot of really good stuff on Twitter, and that’s one of the benefits of following people that you agree with is they can kind of add to what it is that you believe or give you fire under that Belief, and she’s one of those. It’s a perfect example of that. Like you, get a lot of good stuff from her.
0:13:32 – Speaker 2
Well, yeah, because you can tell she’s in the word and she’ll. She’ll say, really, I’m studying this scripture today and this is what I got from it and it’s like, wow, I never thought of it that way. Now I’m gonna go read that and check it out for myself and, yeah, you know, see what the Holy Spirit says to me about it. It’s just a really cool avenue and I would encourage you with your kids on any social media platform, when you’ve vetted out a pastor and you’re like, oh, this is good stuff, like this person is pouring into me over the social, have your kids follow those people. Yeah, they’re seeing the same stuff. My, there’s a couple pastors that I love Jared Wilson, and come to mind Priscilla Shire, those people I just love. And and now my kid is following them on Instagram, mm-hmm, and she will like be like did you see what Jared posted today? Did you see? And we talk about it like it’s fun, yeah, but it’s like really good stuff. You know social media can be good.
0:14:20 – Speaker 3
Yeah, there’s good in it. We just have to direct it and find it fill their newsfeed with good stuff. Yeah, absolutely no-transcript. So yeah, sports, celebrities, pastors, bible studies, all that there’s a lot of good stuff on Twitter.
0:14:34 – Speaker 2
Well, and I’ve heard from some moms they’ll call me and they’ll be like my high school kid has to follow their high school teacher on Twitter.
0:14:40 – Speaker 3
Yes, that’s right. What do you think about that?
0:14:42 – Speaker 2
Well, and I think it’s a great way to disseminate information to your people. So I get why they would do it and I think most kids they’re old enough if they’re in high school, they’re past the 13 age, they’re past that consent age to be on Twitter. So you know, I mean I guess that’s a parental preference, if you like that or not, but sometimes your kids have to be on Twitter to follow their high school teacher or their college professor.
0:15:09 – Speaker 3
Yeah, it can be more than social media. It can be part of your job as a student, so it is a good one.
0:15:16 – Speaker 2
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0:15:35 – Speaker 3
So there’s a lot of good things about Twitter. You can follow people that you respect, people that you wanna hear more from. It’s kind of like having a backstage pass to people that you’re interested in, getting to know their voice and what’s important to them or what’s happening. You can get your news on there. You can follow your teacher. There’s all kinds of good stuff. Well, and I thought of another one, kim.
0:15:52 – Speaker 2
Yeah, youtubers, that’s a big thing.
0:15:54 – Speaker 3
Oh right great.
0:15:55 – Speaker 2
Follow the YouTubers that your kids love. You’re gonna know a lot If they start talking about political and social issues. If they’re using bad language, you’re gonna see that on their Twitter and then you’re gonna be like, okay, we’re gonna remove ourselves from this. Yes that’s a good tip and so and we’ve got another show coming up on YouTube We’ll dive into that but follow people. You know if there’s people coaching your kids, follow them on Twitter. Follow high school teachers on Twitter. Follow, you know the administrators get involved. You can get involved that way.
0:16:23 – Speaker 3
I think we may need to say really quickly here when you start doing that, you will see things that you don’t like. Default to love as we always say Don’t lose it on your kid and throw the phone and take off Twitter because you are seeing something that their coach said or whatever. That starts the conversation. You need to sit down with them and tell them why you’re concerned about it and not just shut it down.
0:16:43 – Speaker 2
Yes or don’t. Screenshot it and then start sending it to everybody and like and then your kid is like, okay, I’m fine with you monitoring Twitter, but why you gotta be crazy. So yes, it’s a conversation between you and your child. I’m so glad you said that Default to love with your kid and everyone else in the Twitter world?
0:17:00 – Speaker 3
Absolutely. So let’s talk a little bit about the downside of Twitter, because, you know, just like everything, there’s good but there’s also bad, and with social media, it’s important that we are very aware of it.
0:17:10 – Speaker 2
Well, you know, twitter is one. I’m on a lot of platforms and I will tell you I’ve seen more pornography on Twitter than any other platform Interesting. There’s a lot on Twitter and there’s a lot of advocates for sex workers rights and, you know, maybe it’s because of all the stuff that I post regarding pornography and that sort of thing, they will start following me and I will go to their page to just check them out and there will be all kinds of stuff that I would not want my child seeing.
And again, I default to love. I never like, am mean to them, you know, because they have a story too. They got there somehow and we need to always remember that. But I just say it as an awareness for parents. If your kids are on it, they’re gonna probably see it. But having said that, if they’re in high school, you should have been talking to them about pornography since they were little bitty and you’ve already created this environment. So when they see it, they’re just gonna tell you and then you’re gonna have a conversation about it and that’ll be that.
0:18:10 – Speaker 3
Or if you haven’t talked to them yet and this is a show that you came across because you’re interested in learning more about Twitter. It’s okay, it’s never too late.
0:18:18 – Speaker 1
We say that all the time, we say it at the same time it’s never too late, it’s never too late.
0:18:22 – Speaker 3
This is a great conversation starter. Hey, I learned all this about Twitter today that I didn’t know, and I was just thinking maybe we could talk about it.
0:18:27 – Speaker 2
Yeah, and have you ever seen anything? I’m not gonna go crazy. I’m not gonna take away your Twitter, if you have. I just wanna be able to talk you through it. Yeah, that’s it. Let’s talk about protecting your heart and your mind and keeping you focused on the right things in your mind and not fantasizing on certain things.
0:18:41 – Speaker 3
Well, and because Twitter has so much pornography, it has made the dirty dozen list for the National Center for Sexual Exploitation. This is a conference we went to in DC. We just met with them. Yeah, we just met with them. Yeah, it’s a big deal. And they say on their website, quote for years that has done little to STEM, meaning Twitter has done little to STEM the overwhelming tide of pornography and prostitution accounts on its site. In fact, media reports suggest that as many as 10 million Twitter accounts may include explicit sexual content. Twitter’s laissez-faire approach to sexually explicit content has gone on for far too long. They’ve come under fire recently for the vast amount of cyber-based sexual harassment, revenge pornography and even sexually exploited images of children on its platform. We know that pornography is inherently tied to cyber-based sexual harassment, a form of revenge pornography, being spammed with pornography or having one’s virtual identity co-opted by tags to pornography.
0:19:38 – Speaker 2
That’s a pretty strong statement. That’s a strong statement.
0:19:41 – Speaker 3
That’s from the.
0:19:41 – Speaker 2
National Center for Sexual Exploitation on the Dirty Dozen List and why Twitter made that. I mean 10 million Twitter accounts may include explicit sexual content. Yeah, exactly, that’s a lot 10 million, Absolutely.
0:19:55 – Speaker 3
So I mean you’re almost saying and guaranteeing that your child will see something if they’re on Twitter, so we need to be aware of that.
0:20:02 – Speaker 2
Yeah, so you know. And the other thing is, when your kids are on Twitter, they’re gonna have access to anything in the world. So that means strangers, that means sex traffickers, that means pimps, that means people trying, and so you know. You need to make sure you’ve had all those conversations about how people manipulate you online. People try to get you to send bad things to them so then they can manipulate you even more. All of those conversations tie in to allowing your kid to have Twitter. You need to make sure that you’ve had those conversations. There is a DM feature, direct messaging Direct messaging, which we talked about. Instagram has it as well. Yep, on Instagram they disappear. On Twitter they do not disappear as of now, of course, any updates could be happening at any time.
So you know you can see the DMs. But at this point you know if you’ve got a high school or college kid, you’re not probably phone checking as much you probably are, but there’s probably a more of a trust being built there and so. But you need to be continually having those conversations. You know, if a stranger contacts you and tries to befriend you, you need to have your guard up.
0:21:10 – Speaker 3
Absolutely. Let’s explain what a retweet is. So those who are just kind of learning about it and what people actually can do with that.
0:21:17 – Speaker 2
So, say, beth Moore tweets something amazing, which she normally does, and I retweet her often. You’re a little birdie, I am Tweet, tweet and so I see her tweet and it’s kind of like, if you’re on Facebook and you share it, it’s kind of like that. So you retweet it, you just hit the retweet button. Now you have two options when you retweet it. You can just retweet it, or you can retweet with a comment. So you retweet with a comment, it’ll have their original retweet and then you can add in whatever you wanna say.
0:21:48 – Speaker 3
Your own 280 characters.
0:21:51 – Speaker 2
Yes, yes, it’s just like a share on Facebook.
0:21:54 – Speaker 3
Now hashtags. Twitter does a good job of the hashtag. It really this is a place to use them.
0:21:59 – Speaker 2
I feel like the hashtags on Twitter are awesome. They’re like my favorite thing ever. So, for instance, when I wanted to find out about the aircraft issue last night that was going on and I couldn’t find it on the national news, that is where I went. I went down to search and I clicked hashtag flight and it popped up and it said flight, the number, and then it told me how many tweets were happening about it. So it’s really great, a great search engine to find that. Now, again, it’s a search engine. So I saw some bad language, I saw some horrible things being posted, so you’re gonna see both sides of it. So just be aware of that.
0:22:39 – Speaker 3
If you don’t know what a hashtag is. It’s like creating a file. So anybody anywhere that has said something or tweeted something and adds a hashtag with a word next to it, it creates a file, and so anybody that uses that hashtag with the word next to it, it’ll all be filed together so you can find comprehensive information on one topic.
0:23:00 – Speaker 2
Right, so we had nextTalk on our Twitter account. Well, on all of our social media platforms, we typically have three hashtags we use nextTalk, talk and Cyber Parenting. If you search hashtag nextTalk, you’re gonna find most of its art content, because we’ve created that file.
0:23:17 – Speaker 3
Yes, it’s an easy way to get what you want in one place.
0:23:19 – Speaker 2
Yeah, it’s like think about, like, when the Super Bowl is being played and you wanna tweet out something about the Super Bowl the halftime performance You’re gonna do hashtag Super Bowl and it’ll pull up the most used tweets about the Super Bowl. That’s the great thing about Twitter it’ll tell you Use this one cause it’s trending the most, and then you do that, and then you can go click on that hashtag and see what everybody else is saying from all over the world about the Super Bowl.
0:23:43 – Speaker 3
Wow. So again, because there’s such access to everything, this is definitely a platform for older kids. Now, your kids don’t have it yet, even though they’re 14 and 10, but you share with them sometimes things from people that they really love or they’re interested in. It’s good practice. It’s good practice.
0:24:00 – Speaker 2
JJ. Well, my son is a big football fan. He made us all football fans.
And so I follow some big NFL players that I love and admire, and JJ Watt. One time I follow him and one time there was a sick kid and he couldn’t go to school or whatever he was I think he was cancer or something. Jj Watt tweeted him, replied back to him and said hey, DM me, direct message me, and give me your gaming. I’m gonna log on and play this game with you. And so just a really sweet thing, right that an NFL guy who has a lot on his plate would make time to connect with this kid on this game and play. It was a football game, and so I shared that with my son. Just sharing that. But I also you need to be careful, because we don’t live our life for Twitter, so I can’t constantly be showing them.
Oh my gosh, look, look look because, then they think oh, it’s about the recognition and it’s about the retweets or whatever. But yeah, if you hear a positive story, share it with your kids.
0:24:54 – Speaker 3
Absolutely, it’s a great way to connect, it’s a great tool, but again, there’s good and bad, and so we always need to be filtering. We always need to be talking through it with our kids.
0:25:03 – Speaker 2
Yes For the wrap up segment today. One Twitter is a social media platform that formed in 2006 and has 330 million active users. Two it’s a great way to connect with people all over the world, including celebrities, pastors, athletes. It’s a new source for many kids that shape political and social views. Three our main concern with Twitter content and strangers. These are important conversations to have with your kids once they start using any social media.
0:25:33 – Speaker 1
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